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Let's revisit that films of joy post. Like I said, I don't watch a lot of film, which means that I'm likely missing out on many things that I would like if I knew about them. So if you start with Charlie Kaufman, Miyazaki, Svenkmajer, the Marx Brothers, Jeunet and Caro (the five primary sources of joy in my original list), then add in Terry Gilliam (yes, every film including Baron Munchausen) and quirky cult films like Harold and Maude or Being There, plus obvious geek pleasers like LotR and CTHD...where do you, oh great video store master, send me next? Help me, Lazyweb!

Date: 2005-09-28 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skronk.livejournal.com
The Music of Chance - unfortunately this film isn't out on DVD yet, but my local library has it on VHS so you might be able to find it there. It's a strange little film starring Mandy Patinkin as a drifter and James Spader as a gambler who get involved in the wrong card game. Not wrong as in typical gamblers in bad games wrong, but more like Charlie Kaufman would handle a gambling movie.

Pi - Darren Aronofsky wrote and directed this movie in a nice gritty black and white. It's about a mathematician who believes patterns exist in everything. He sees them everywhere - including the stock market. He is trying to find a secret 216 digit number in Pi that will unlock the pattern that runs through everything, not just individual pieces of nature. He slides deeper into paranoia as he gets closer and everyone else who wants it is after him.

Date: 2005-09-30 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Thanks. I had heard good things about Pi before.

Date: 2005-09-28 08:13 pm (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
I will beat [livejournal.com profile] sambushell to the punch by recommending Almodóvar. Especially Talk to Her.

Date: 2005-09-30 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Noted. He's a favorite of the people at the Red Vic, which should have been a sign.

Tim Burton?

Date: 2005-09-28 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
I'm personally rather fond of Big Fish. However, it has made the rounds on HBO quite a bit recently, leading to a bit of saturation. It is, in my opinion, the most Gilliam-esque of his works, especially in that it doesn't *look* like it had the typical Burton budget (the kind of money Gilliam never gets).

Re: Tim Burton?

Date: 2005-09-30 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Hm, the early novelty of his visual style got awful repetetive/dull a while back; does Big Fish break that mold? I'm not super excited about Corpse Bride, even when you factor in the Depp bonus, because it looks like another stop-motion version of The Tim Burton Movie.

Date: 2005-09-28 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredfred.livejournal.com
The films of Zhang Yimou. Big, gorgeous visuals, classic stories. I somewhat prefer his earlier movies.

- House of Flying Daggers (2004)
- Hero (2002)
These are both wuxia style movies; if you liked CTHD you will like these.

- The Road Home (1999)
- Raise the Red Lantern (1991)
- Ju Dou (1990)

These star the incomparable Gong Li, who is one of the most beautiful women in the world.

Peter Greenaway. His films are tight intellectual puzzles, with a beating heart of fire. I haven't seen enough of his work.

Kieslowski. Blue, White, Red.

Where are you on the Coen brothers? Have you seen The Man Who Wasn't There, O Brother Where Art Thou, Barton Fink, etc.?

Wes Anderson. Funny, strange; get into his headspace and they're the most hilarious films. It's all in the details. Rushmore, The Royal Tennenbaums. I didn't much like The Life Aquatic but some did.

Paul Thomas Anderson (no relation). Magnolia. Punch-Drunk Love is pretty interesting too.

Atom Egoyan. Literary stories that will torture your emotions. Felicia's Journey, The Sweet Hereafter, Exotica.

Date: 2005-09-28 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canetoad.livejournal.com
Yeah, let's hear it for Atom Egoyan! I stumbled, unknowing, into a double feature of his one time several years ago...phew!

Date: 2005-09-28 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glaucon.livejournal.com
Where are you on the Coen brothers? Have you seen The Man Who Wasn't There, O Brother Where Art Thou, Barton Fink, etc.?

also The Big Lebowski - one of my two favorite movies of all time and one which, if combined with Hamlet and Young Frankenstein, contains an encoded solution to any crisis you're going to encounter at any point in your life.

Date: 2005-09-30 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Yimou: I knew the titles, not the person responsible. I have seen Raise the Red Lantern; lots of vibrant colors, gorgeous shots of the silks and dyes, right? That was a great film.

Greenaway: I haven't seen anything but Prospero's Books, which was very well done.

I am ignorant of Kieslowski, Coen Bros., and both Andersons, altough the Jon Brion connection to PTA did register. Ditto Egoyan, despite [livejournal.com profile] canetoad's recommendation.

Thanks for the tips and reminders.

Date: 2005-09-28 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwrnmnbsol.livejournal.com
The best science fiction film is The Quiet Earth, a kiwi film.

Date: 2005-09-30 10:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-09-28 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nothings.livejournal.com
Well, I like most of that stuff so I could just dump my 5-star netflix list at you, but that's probably overkill. (And note re: posters above: I liked CTHD but didn't think Hero lived up to it; I like Aronofsky's Requiem for a Dream but hated Pi).

So, trying to be more organized based on the above, and not particularly restricted to movies in the last five years since you didn't say...

quirky: Amelie, Local Hero, Shaolin Soccer, Diva ("C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."), Better Off Dead, Go
mainstream comedies: Groundhog Day, All of Me, Ruthless People
Coen brothers: Fargo, Raising Arizona, O Brother Where Art Thou
geek pleasers: Fight Club, Run Lola Run, the Kevin Smith oeuvre (primarily Clerks, Chasing Amy, Dogma)

If you've already seen some of these and like them, make a note and I'll see if I can find more-like-that.

Date: 2005-09-30 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Familiar with All of Me, Ruthless People, Better Off Dead; thanks for the rest.

Date: 2005-09-28 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glaucon.livejournal.com
Man of the Century.
Zoolander.
I Huckabees
any of the Busby Berkeley movies, but particularly Gold Diggers of 1933

really. highly recommend all of these to you particularly. give me a day to consult with my associate and I'll come up with a few more.

Re: Oldboy

Date: 2005-09-30 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Noted. [livejournal.com profile] canetoad saw Huckabees and raved, but I missed it.

Oldboy

Date: 2005-09-29 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-askesis860.livejournal.com
Korean film from last year. Very good. Also exceptioanlly evil.

Re: Oldboy

Date: 2005-09-30 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
I'm not sure I should be within 500 feet of anything you think is "evil"? I'm just saying.

Date: 2005-09-29 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drjohn.livejournal.com

I second The Quiet Earth, but it did not stand up to a second watching, for whatever reason.

My favorite film few have seen is "Intacto".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0220580/

I cannot figure out the low IMDB rating. It has great theory and exection.

If you want a series to consume, you could do much worse than finding out if Hal Hartley films are your thing (suggested: Flirt, Simple Men, Trust). Much cast overlap + similar dialogue style = the Hartley headspace.

Date: 2005-09-30 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Again, my erstwhile partner has been first in line with the Hal Hartley tip, which has fallen prey to my powerful ability to not watch films. I should just make more time for films and let her pick, then come back around to all of your lists!

Date: 2005-09-29 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmhoofnagle.livejournal.com

Please tell me you've seen:
Miller's Crossing (beautiful gangster movie with Gabriel Byrne)
The Thin Man movies -- a series of 5 wise cracking 40s movies
with William Powell and Myrna Loy. Snappy and amusing. LOTS of booze and cigarettes.

Random things I've seen that were worth a second look, but are not seminal:

The Scent of Green Papaya -- Vietnamese movie I saw ages ago. I scarcely remember the plot but the affect of the film was like being there. It was gorgeous.

The Station Agent -- solitary man with dwarfism and a fixation on trains inherits and moves into an old train depot. Meets locals. Personal attachments ensue.

Jump Tomorrow -- quirky African man living in the US trying to decide whether to show up for his arranged marriage. Road tripping and hijinks.

Date: 2005-09-30 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Yes on Miller's Crossing. Didn't know it was Coen Brothers! Ignorant of the rest of your list, thanks!
From: (Anonymous)
8 1/2, Amadeus, Brainstorm, Dead Man, The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, Dr. Strangelove, The Lion in Winter, My Dinner with Andre, Pistol Opera, and True Stories.

Durn Kludge. I swear, that man is responsible for more people misquoting Diva than...grumble, grumble, grumble. :)

hugs and blinky movie-eyes,
mary
From: [identity profile] glaucon.livejournal.com
I'd like to second The Lion in Winter and also throw in a big shout out to A Man For All Seasons which, now that I think about it, is often my favorite movie of all time.



File under: "How could I forget?"

Date: 2005-09-29 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T, with screenplay, set design, and songs by Dr. Seuss. Yup, yup.

mary
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Oh my god, I can't believe I forgot The Lion in Winter. I'm going back to edit my original post. I mean, really, what a goddamned lapse! Dr. Strangelove, yes absolutely, and 8 1/2.

Amadeus...one of these days I have to go back and watch Amadeus again. The first time I saw it, I was Watching Some Other Movie at the time, and well, that was part of the sequence of events that deposited me in California.

Date: 2005-09-29 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glaucon.livejournal.com
also recommended:

Pandaemonium (2000) - Wordsworth, Coleridge et al as you've never seen them before

Phenomena (1985) - horror/thriller with Jennifer Connelly (just pre-Labyrinth) - she can communicate with bugs telepathically but this has nothing to do with the plot - it's just a weird mcguffin

The Saddest Music in the World - Guy Maddin movie - one of the more unearthly pictures you're ever gonna see. Isabella Rosellini plays a beer heiress with two artificial glass legs which she keeps filled with beer.

Date: 2005-09-29 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glaucon.livejournal.com
oh yeah - and High Plains Drifter with Clint Eastwood. seriously.

Date: 2005-09-30 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
The Morricone sountracks to the Eastwood westerns were the soundtrack of my youth; my dad loved them with an unhealthy passion. So yeah, know that whole series inside and out, love it to pieces.

"My mistake. Four coffins."

Date: 2005-09-29 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glaucon.livejournal.com
my asssociate ([livejournal.com profile] fossefox) highly recommends The American Astronaut. she describes it as a cross between Firefly, Vegas in Space, and Barbarella. apparently, it's also a musical.

Date: 2005-09-30 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwenius.livejournal.com
Musicals. I loved Moulin Rouge. Who's with me?

Date: 2005-10-01 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredfred.livejournal.com
Yay! Have you seen 'All That Jazz'?

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