and now, the rant.
Nov. 5th, 2008 12:58 pmProp 8 supporters: You suck, assholes.
1. Did you vote for prop 8 because you want to defend marriage? From WHAT? The Divorce rate is between 40-50% and has been for decades. (http://www.aboutdivorce.org/us_divorce_rates.html) Seems to me that you need to protect marriage from heterosexuals first.
2. Did you vote for Prop 8 because you are a Christian? Then in my strongly opinionated view you have fundamentally misunderstood the purpose and messsage of the New Testament. Christ never mentions homosexuality, not once (although he has plenty to say about divorce, See Luke 16:18 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+16:18 ).
2a. Paul is vocal about homosexuality, but then again Paul is a known prick, the James Dobson of his era, who didn't much care for marriage at all and thought women should shut up and stay in their God-appointed subservient place (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Corinthians%2014:29-40;&version=8;), so who gives a shit about his opinion in this modern age?
2b. The rest of the anti-homosexuality writing in the Bible is in Genesis and Leviticus. So...you're an Ultra-Orthodox Jew, then? Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you, but for a Christian, it's a bit of a problem, no? (Note that apprently, non-Orthodox folks were ok with a No vote, see this article http://jta.org/news/article/2008/11/03/1000720/op-ed-prop-8-goes-against-gods-love-for-every-person). So, Mr. Christian, worn any poly-cotten blends lately, or eaten sausage? "Almost" doesn't count in Leviticus. Or perhaps you could get moving on that whole accepting Jesus as your personal savior thing? Love your neighbor, do unto others, etc? Ring any bells?
3. Take a look at the economy. Hear that giant sucking sound? The wedding industry generates somewhere between $60 billion and $140 billion of business in the US (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/777801.html), and that's WITHOUT the fashion conscious gays getting in on the action. California, with our $35b budget shortfall, has already and would have continued to benefit on a local level when gays and lesbians from other parts of the country flew to CA to get married. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, math whiz.
4. Blacks voted for Prop 8 70%-30%. Possibly because they were listening to their so-called Christian preachers, see #2. Given that Loving v. Virginia is only 40 years old (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia), I...I really don't know what to say. Short memory? Somehow mysteriously unclear on the concept of discrimination and equal rights under the law? Desperately clinging to an established pecking order that gives you a group that you can look down upon in the same way that some whites have historically and continue to look down upon you (actual truth vs. perceived truth of said "looking-down-upon-beliefs" notwithstanding)??? Is it too un-PC to voice this one? Tough.
5. Did you vote for Prop 8 because you suck? Thought so.
Regarding the large Mormon influence and $$ contributions to the Yes campaign, if I had unlimited time and money, I'd get a bunch of Charter buses to Hollywood and the Castro, load 'em up, and head for Salt Lake City to give those holy-underpants-wearing motherfuckers what for. Calling ahead to the SLC police chief, of course, to arrange permits for a Constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment right of free expression. Free, and LOUD, and flamboyant, expression.
Also, Can we get some of the churches that HAVE been allowing gay marriage to sue for religious discrimination? A little church on church action in the CA supreme court? Please?
1. Did you vote for prop 8 because you want to defend marriage? From WHAT? The Divorce rate is between 40-50% and has been for decades. (http://www.aboutdivorce.org/us_divorce_rates.html) Seems to me that you need to protect marriage from heterosexuals first.
2. Did you vote for Prop 8 because you are a Christian? Then in my strongly opinionated view you have fundamentally misunderstood the purpose and messsage of the New Testament. Christ never mentions homosexuality, not once (although he has plenty to say about divorce, See Luke 16:18 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+16:18 ).
2a. Paul is vocal about homosexuality, but then again Paul is a known prick, the James Dobson of his era, who didn't much care for marriage at all and thought women should shut up and stay in their God-appointed subservient place (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Corinthians%2014:29-40;&version=8;), so who gives a shit about his opinion in this modern age?
2b. The rest of the anti-homosexuality writing in the Bible is in Genesis and Leviticus. So...you're an Ultra-Orthodox Jew, then? Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you, but for a Christian, it's a bit of a problem, no? (Note that apprently, non-Orthodox folks were ok with a No vote, see this article http://jta.org/news/article/2008/11/03/1000720/op-ed-prop-8-goes-against-gods-love-for-every-person). So, Mr. Christian, worn any poly-cotten blends lately, or eaten sausage? "Almost" doesn't count in Leviticus. Or perhaps you could get moving on that whole accepting Jesus as your personal savior thing? Love your neighbor, do unto others, etc? Ring any bells?
3. Take a look at the economy. Hear that giant sucking sound? The wedding industry generates somewhere between $60 billion and $140 billion of business in the US (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/777801.html), and that's WITHOUT the fashion conscious gays getting in on the action. California, with our $35b budget shortfall, has already and would have continued to benefit on a local level when gays and lesbians from other parts of the country flew to CA to get married. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, math whiz.
4. Blacks voted for Prop 8 70%-30%. Possibly because they were listening to their so-called Christian preachers, see #2. Given that Loving v. Virginia is only 40 years old (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia), I...I really don't know what to say. Short memory? Somehow mysteriously unclear on the concept of discrimination and equal rights under the law? Desperately clinging to an established pecking order that gives you a group that you can look down upon in the same way that some whites have historically and continue to look down upon you (actual truth vs. perceived truth of said "looking-down-upon-beliefs" notwithstanding)??? Is it too un-PC to voice this one? Tough.
5. Did you vote for Prop 8 because you suck? Thought so.
Regarding the large Mormon influence and $$ contributions to the Yes campaign, if I had unlimited time and money, I'd get a bunch of Charter buses to Hollywood and the Castro, load 'em up, and head for Salt Lake City to give those holy-underpants-wearing motherfuckers what for. Calling ahead to the SLC police chief, of course, to arrange permits for a Constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment right of free expression. Free, and LOUD, and flamboyant, expression.
Also, Can we get some of the churches that HAVE been allowing gay marriage to sue for religious discrimination? A little church on church action in the CA supreme court? Please?